subba
02-28 01:52 PM
I had gone thru a layoff experience 3 years back.
They laid my team off in April, but for some reason said that they will keep us on payroll till July (effectively we got a paid holiday for 3 months :-) ) and gave us severance on top of that.
I took the 3 months to do job search and started the new job in July (technically there was a month gap between when I stopped being on payroll and when I started new job).
Recently when I asked old employer for employment verif letter for I140, the letter said I was employed till July of 04.
In general my feeling is, as long as you have paystubs and employment verif letters that you can use to claim you were employed till a certain date, you should be ok.
How much of a grace period on top of that USCIS gives is a hard qn to answer (just like anything else related to USCIS) ?
They laid my team off in April, but for some reason said that they will keep us on payroll till July (effectively we got a paid holiday for 3 months :-) ) and gave us severance on top of that.
I took the 3 months to do job search and started the new job in July (technically there was a month gap between when I stopped being on payroll and when I started new job).
Recently when I asked old employer for employment verif letter for I140, the letter said I was employed till July of 04.
In general my feeling is, as long as you have paystubs and employment verif letters that you can use to claim you were employed till a certain date, you should be ok.
How much of a grace period on top of that USCIS gives is a hard qn to answer (just like anything else related to USCIS) ?
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pa_arora
07-15 05:47 PM
I already mentioned in my previous posts (multiple posts with same matter for people like you and me, see it and understand it well) how we are getting more than 50k visas just for EB2 India. I am giving it here again the visa allotments for 2006 and 2007 years when theres vertical fallouts. Now its changed to horizontal fall outs.
Due to this as many of us think its not the EB3 India which is losing, but its EB3 ROW.
Class --------------------------------------> 2006 | 2007
Total Employment-based Approvals ----------> 159,081 | 162,176
EB1 ---------------------------------------> 36,960 | 26,697
EB2 ---------------------------------------> 21,911 | 44,162
EB3 ---------------------------------------> 89,922 | 85,030
Fourth:-------------------------------------> 9,539 | 5,481
Fifth (investors) ----------------------------> 749 | 806
See the Total Employment Based Visa approvals for 2006 and 2007 159,081 and 162,176. But there are only 140,000 visas in EB category. The rest of the visas came from Family Based visas which are not used for the previous fiscal year. The share for each category: Each EB1, EB2 and EB3 should get 1/3 of 140,000 = 46,666. But due to the less demand in EB1 and EB2 ROW all the visas falling to EB3 ROW due to the Vertical falling.
EB1 ROW --> EB2 ROW --> EB3 ROW.
EB1 INDIA --> EB2 INDIA --> EB3 INDIA.
As theres not much demand for EB1 ROW and EB2 ROW, all the unused visas are going to fall to EB3 ROW. So from this time its going to be like Horizotal fall out like below.
EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA.
So this time to fall any VISAS into EB3 ROW they have to pass through EB2 India/EB2 China. So this makes EB3 ROW dates would retrogress due to the decrease in visa numbers availabilty.
As I said each category would have 46,666. So EB1 and EB2 together will have around 93,332 visas. But in EB1+EB2 in 2006 about 50,000 visas approved and in 2007 about 70,000 visas approved. So for 2008 also asume the demand for EB1 and EB2 is 70,000. But the availability of VISAS are 93,332 as said above + unused family visas which come around 19,000+.
So for this 2008 fiscal year for EB2 India and China the total visa numbers availla ble are
(93,332 +19,000) - 70,000 = 42,332.
So around 42 thousand + 9,800 (regular 7% of 140k) = around 52k Visas Just for India , because EB2 China was already Jan 2006 a year back. And I dont think it would take any considerable share in this 50k other than its regular 9,800 visas.
Get me back if you have any doubts.
Hi vldrao
I see ur predictions coming true, but with a big BUT, the flow "EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA." may be a make-shift approach just to use up leftover visas for this year. This is not a published rule anywhere. So how can u be so certain based on Ron Gotcher or how can he be so certain that this gonna be the approach going forward.
If u made this prediction based on the above rule, then where did u get the news that the visa flow will be changed from vertical to horisontal???? Or was it just a fluke????
We have being diched by USCIS/DOS so many times that i believe such move "too good to be true". It seems like this VB is also like the July07 where everybody when current with the difference that only EB2 IC are forwarded.
Due to this as many of us think its not the EB3 India which is losing, but its EB3 ROW.
Class --------------------------------------> 2006 | 2007
Total Employment-based Approvals ----------> 159,081 | 162,176
EB1 ---------------------------------------> 36,960 | 26,697
EB2 ---------------------------------------> 21,911 | 44,162
EB3 ---------------------------------------> 89,922 | 85,030
Fourth:-------------------------------------> 9,539 | 5,481
Fifth (investors) ----------------------------> 749 | 806
See the Total Employment Based Visa approvals for 2006 and 2007 159,081 and 162,176. But there are only 140,000 visas in EB category. The rest of the visas came from Family Based visas which are not used for the previous fiscal year. The share for each category: Each EB1, EB2 and EB3 should get 1/3 of 140,000 = 46,666. But due to the less demand in EB1 and EB2 ROW all the visas falling to EB3 ROW due to the Vertical falling.
EB1 ROW --> EB2 ROW --> EB3 ROW.
EB1 INDIA --> EB2 INDIA --> EB3 INDIA.
As theres not much demand for EB1 ROW and EB2 ROW, all the unused visas are going to fall to EB3 ROW. So from this time its going to be like Horizotal fall out like below.
EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA.
So this time to fall any VISAS into EB3 ROW they have to pass through EB2 India/EB2 China. So this makes EB3 ROW dates would retrogress due to the decrease in visa numbers availabilty.
As I said each category would have 46,666. So EB1 and EB2 together will have around 93,332 visas. But in EB1+EB2 in 2006 about 50,000 visas approved and in 2007 about 70,000 visas approved. So for 2008 also asume the demand for EB1 and EB2 is 70,000. But the availability of VISAS are 93,332 as said above + unused family visas which come around 19,000+.
So for this 2008 fiscal year for EB2 India and China the total visa numbers availla ble are
(93,332 +19,000) - 70,000 = 42,332.
So around 42 thousand + 9,800 (regular 7% of 140k) = around 52k Visas Just for India , because EB2 China was already Jan 2006 a year back. And I dont think it would take any considerable share in this 50k other than its regular 9,800 visas.
Get me back if you have any doubts.
Hi vldrao
I see ur predictions coming true, but with a big BUT, the flow "EB1 ROW/EB1 INDIA --> EB2 ROW/ EB2India/ EB2China-->EB3ROW/EB3 INDIA." may be a make-shift approach just to use up leftover visas for this year. This is not a published rule anywhere. So how can u be so certain based on Ron Gotcher or how can he be so certain that this gonna be the approach going forward.
If u made this prediction based on the above rule, then where did u get the news that the visa flow will be changed from vertical to horisontal???? Or was it just a fluke????
We have being diched by USCIS/DOS so many times that i believe such move "too good to be true". It seems like this VB is also like the July07 where everybody when current with the difference that only EB2 IC are forwarded.
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pa_arora
07-15 07:32 PM
The DOS after consulting with attorneys and the Congress has concluded that EB visa numbers should spill over horizontally rather than vertically. Relevent legal clauses addressing this issue were posted by IV members yesterday. DOS now admits it's previous interpretation of vertical spill over (excess visas going to EB-3 ROW) was wrong. Can it be challenged or reversed?, Of course possible but very unlikely to happen in the near future in the next several months.
All said and done, I'll say vdlrao calculations with (sumagiri correction:) look credible.
Can you please post a link?
All said and done, I'll say vdlrao calculations with (sumagiri correction:) look credible.
Can you please post a link?
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rockstart
06-26 08:54 AM
AILA does not care about people its an organization to take care of lawyer's interest. When you file every year the lawyer can make money every year. So be rest assured they will make some noises but will not bite USCIS.
i am pretty sure, there wont be any fee for next 1 year, for the guys who got 1yr EAD. but, third year u pay again $340 for 2 more years. bottomline,$340 is for 2 years of EAD. otherwise there will another law suit from AILA.
i am pretty sure, there wont be any fee for next 1 year, for the guys who got 1yr EAD. but, third year u pay again $340 for 2 more years. bottomline,$340 is for 2 years of EAD. otherwise there will another law suit from AILA.
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sunny1000
06-25 05:12 PM
Please call the congressman's office and request your friends, family and colleagues (including U.S citizens) to call as well to make this campaign a success.
Thanks.:)
Thanks.:)
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ufo2002
11-08 03:04 PM
How does passing CIR help us? I didn't really have the energy to go thru the whole bill but it didn't specify what "line" those 20+million ppl who eventually get amnesty will be processed in. If they line up on EB3 or a supplementary bill in the future decides to allocate some EB3 to a "Schedule B" (just for example), then we are right back to where we started (but add more years to the waiting).
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maag
06-17 07:33 PM
Same here ... for EAD and AP (for me or dependent) my company does not reimburse these fees. They will however reimburse if I have to use EAD to work due to unavoidable H1 extension issues/ inability to extend beyond 6 yrs etc. I think that is a fair and reasonable policy in general
what I mean to say is, if i do self filing my employer will not reimburse it and if fragomen files it then fragomen gets directly paid by my employer.
what I mean to say is, if i do self filing my employer will not reimburse it and if fragomen files it then fragomen gets directly paid by my employer.
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ivar
07-17 10:21 PM
I am happy for everyone who can file I-485 but its okay if some one who cannot shows frustration. We as a community should understand each other instead of banning.
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cbpds
05-17 12:11 PM
A very useful way of using technology to promote legal immigration !!!
Sent emails already
Thanks Pappu
Thank you for participating in the national phone campaign we ran for the last 2 weeks.
We got feedback on some calls that were made and it was encouraging.
We are now starting a campaign to contact our lawmakers and media offices.
Please click on ImmigrationVoice.org - Advocacy -- Legislative Action Center (http://immigrationvoice.capwiz.com/immigrationvoice/home/)
or the icons on the top of IV page to participate in the action alerts.
This campaign is very simple.
It will not even take 5 minutes of your time.
Please spread the word around so that we can flood the offices with our emails. This will help in the event we are planning for next month. See IV announcement: Advocacy Days in Washington DC: 7th & 8th June - Page 3 - Immigration Voice (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=1437978)
- Team IV
Sent emails already
Thanks Pappu
Thank you for participating in the national phone campaign we ran for the last 2 weeks.
We got feedback on some calls that were made and it was encouraging.
We are now starting a campaign to contact our lawmakers and media offices.
Please click on ImmigrationVoice.org - Advocacy -- Legislative Action Center (http://immigrationvoice.capwiz.com/immigrationvoice/home/)
or the icons on the top of IV page to participate in the action alerts.
This campaign is very simple.
It will not even take 5 minutes of your time.
Please spread the word around so that we can flood the offices with our emails. This will help in the event we are planning for next month. See IV announcement: Advocacy Days in Washington DC: 7th & 8th June - Page 3 - Immigration Voice (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=1437978)
- Team IV
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nfinity
09-21 07:26 PM
This question is not to undermine the effort, which was tremendous but just from a realistic point of view...
I'm just curious to know how long it will take (or rather how long we are prepared to wait) for the impact of this rally to be felt and what are the changes that can be expected from USCIS as a result ?
Say, after waiting for a few months, status quo continues, what further actions are planned to persist with IV's cause (i.e. more rallies or by other means) ?
If the same question has been already raised, please ignore.
Thanks.
Vin,
I dont think the question is about price of action. Its the price you are going to pay for inaction. Each of us is impacted one way another. So, do you really want to sit at home and do nothing about it?
how many times do you take the approach of inaction to solve a problem?
I'm just curious to know how long it will take (or rather how long we are prepared to wait) for the impact of this rally to be felt and what are the changes that can be expected from USCIS as a result ?
Say, after waiting for a few months, status quo continues, what further actions are planned to persist with IV's cause (i.e. more rallies or by other means) ?
If the same question has been already raised, please ignore.
Thanks.
Vin,
I dont think the question is about price of action. Its the price you are going to pay for inaction. Each of us is impacted one way another. So, do you really want to sit at home and do nothing about it?
how many times do you take the approach of inaction to solve a problem?
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BumbleBee
07-18 12:44 PM
Its not over till its over :), and its not over yet by any means. I am willing to wait and fight ;) . Everyone has priorities in life, each person would view GC situation differently. For me, its not the ultimate dream, but just a vehicle to continue my journey for some more time (with peace of mind). I am definitely looking to gray my hair in my home country or atleast be there once I am grayed haired :D
Doing an MBA/PMI and looking for managerial job is the only realistic possibility for most, I don't think most people would wanna still be programming when they turn 40/45 (depending on how old/young you feel).
My gut feel is that there will be some kind of relief by end of 2007 or early 2008
BumbleBee
Doing an MBA/PMI and looking for managerial job is the only realistic possibility for most, I don't think most people would wanna still be programming when they turn 40/45 (depending on how old/young you feel).
My gut feel is that there will be some kind of relief by end of 2007 or early 2008
BumbleBee
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gerilart
09-24 11:54 PM
I think that the best way to get media attention is to have own journalist.
It would be possible to have an Immigration Voice Daily (or Times). However I am to sure how difficult would be to have some one participating in presidential campaign debates and rallies as well press conferences and ask questions about legal immigration.
Are there any journalism graduates?
It would be possible to have an Immigration Voice Daily (or Times). However I am to sure how difficult would be to have some one participating in presidential campaign debates and rallies as well press conferences and ask questions about legal immigration.
Are there any journalism graduates?
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prince_charming
09-24 08:06 PM
Hi Prince charming,
I m in simillar situation as you are.
Transefered to new employer : Filed Ac 21,G 28 , H1 Transfered to new company through corporate lawyer
Even received EAD and AP renewals last week.
Today I have received deniel notices for me and my family applications.
Thank God I did not use my EAD so far.
Dont know what to do? It is so frustrating.
No NOID also , they sent deniel directly as your case.
Please post if you have received any updates.
Thanks
Ram
Hey Ram,
I am still waiting for Denial notice since...... i received CRIS email on 12th Sept and till now i have not received any notice.
Checked with my current attorney and my old attorney as well but they have not received any notice.
Can you tell me which date you received email and how many days it took to get notice in hand?
Thanks
I m in simillar situation as you are.
Transefered to new employer : Filed Ac 21,G 28 , H1 Transfered to new company through corporate lawyer
Even received EAD and AP renewals last week.
Today I have received deniel notices for me and my family applications.
Thank God I did not use my EAD so far.
Dont know what to do? It is so frustrating.
No NOID also , they sent deniel directly as your case.
Please post if you have received any updates.
Thanks
Ram
Hey Ram,
I am still waiting for Denial notice since...... i received CRIS email on 12th Sept and till now i have not received any notice.
Checked with my current attorney and my old attorney as well but they have not received any notice.
Can you tell me which date you received email and how many days it took to get notice in hand?
Thanks
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ghost
07-19 08:03 AM
might sound the most silliest... 3) I simply cant drive in the traffic there..no matter what..??!! I feel highly handicapped there without commuting.
You'll be fine with in a couple of weeks after you run into a couple of mobile road blockers:)
You'll be fine with in a couple of weeks after you run into a couple of mobile road blockers:)
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satishku_2000
09-21 07:19 PM
You could have called the local finger print office, and asked to move to another day because of travel. They let me come in 2 weeks early because of a flight. I had tickets in hand but they didn't ask to see.
I am not quite proud of what I did ... :(
I am not quite proud of what I did ... :(
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GCBy3000
12-01 11:19 AM
What is the use of double masters and MBA from Harvard/Kellogs if you cannot get promoted. With all those degree on hand, you will still end up doing what you were doing at the time you filed for your labor.
Thinking about these options are good if and only you are sure that you will have your GC when you complete your studies. MBA is worst as it will have negative impact on your career if you continue to do what you were doing even after your MBA completion. Down the line when you get GC, you cannot substantiate your motive for MBA which is really going to HURT your carrer. MS is lot better then MBA.
If you are really interested in MBA, do prepare for GMAT / TOEFL , take the exams and keep your scores ready. Start doing some volunteer job / community work. Volunteer / non-profit work / community work will add some value to your resume to show your leadership skills.
DONT DO THE MISTAKE OF DOING MBA IF YOU ARE NOT SURE TO GET YOUR GC BY THE TIME YOU COMPLETE IT. IF YOU DONT GET IT, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE GUTS TO KICK THE US CAREER AND TO GO WHEREVER YOU RE EMBRACED FOR YOUR SKILLS/EDUCATION.
I agree. I realized that I was paying too much for my MBA from a top 15 school and I decided to put on hold for that exactly same reason. I received job offers from employers which were willing to pay 100% of the MBA. Of course I had to decline due to my status.
Also, interest rates in private loan banks are very high. I thought more about it and decided to put the damn MBA studies on hold and wait until I can change jobs and let an employer pay the thing for me.
My advice is for people to watch out carefully. MBA can get very expensive and you may just actually making your hosts happier, not necessarily you !
Thinking about these options are good if and only you are sure that you will have your GC when you complete your studies. MBA is worst as it will have negative impact on your career if you continue to do what you were doing even after your MBA completion. Down the line when you get GC, you cannot substantiate your motive for MBA which is really going to HURT your carrer. MS is lot better then MBA.
If you are really interested in MBA, do prepare for GMAT / TOEFL , take the exams and keep your scores ready. Start doing some volunteer job / community work. Volunteer / non-profit work / community work will add some value to your resume to show your leadership skills.
DONT DO THE MISTAKE OF DOING MBA IF YOU ARE NOT SURE TO GET YOUR GC BY THE TIME YOU COMPLETE IT. IF YOU DONT GET IT, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE GUTS TO KICK THE US CAREER AND TO GO WHEREVER YOU RE EMBRACED FOR YOUR SKILLS/EDUCATION.
I agree. I realized that I was paying too much for my MBA from a top 15 school and I decided to put on hold for that exactly same reason. I received job offers from employers which were willing to pay 100% of the MBA. Of course I had to decline due to my status.
Also, interest rates in private loan banks are very high. I thought more about it and decided to put the damn MBA studies on hold and wait until I can change jobs and let an employer pay the thing for me.
My advice is for people to watch out carefully. MBA can get very expensive and you may just actually making your hosts happier, not necessarily you !
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hazishak
09-17 06:56 PM
So if what you are saying is true, then form example, country "A" has only one applicant. Since ROW collectively used all the visa,country "A" has to wait 6/7 years to get visa number?
They do have per country limits. But the none of those countries have used up the 7% allocated for those individual states before the the total number of visas ran out. In other words none of those countries had applicants to consume the full 7% but collectively used up the the total number of visas.
But in the case of the countries like India, china etc they have actually used up the total 7% of the visas per country.
They do have per country limits. But the none of those countries have used up the 7% allocated for those individual states before the the total number of visas ran out. In other words none of those countries had applicants to consume the full 7% but collectively used up the the total number of visas.
But in the case of the countries like India, china etc they have actually used up the total 7% of the visas per country.
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chanduv23
10-05 07:29 AM
I think for first meeting 10-12 are enough. Let us meet and decide upon the strategy to have more people. I would prefer not to have lot of people in the first meeting.
Never say that. We need everyone. This discourages those who are on the fence.
I am saying this by experience - being a non profit and no obligation group - many people who want to do something - are just sitting on the fence finding it tough to decide whether to make the jump or not - a very good example is the rally. Most people just wanted to see how the response is and then jump in.
Every member in IV is a very crucial member - everyone has skills that he/she can contribute so just get as many people as possible - keep them intact - this is very essential. If people start backing out - others will lose morale. And slowly people will stop showing interest and when something drastic happens everyone will start blaming IV for not doing its job and will ask IV for doing fast actions.
We worked extremely hard to build the Tri State team so did California folks and other folks are catching up - it involves a lot of hard work and you will be constantly attacked by people for no fault of yours, but it is very essential that you keep up the tempo and morale - patience and perseverence is the key here for building the team. Aggression and passion must be combined to lead something.
At Tri State we recongize everyone. Everyone in this area have worked extremely hard with a lot of dedication and commitment - words will not be enough to describe their commitment. A lot of people say - Tri State was a let down for the rally - but in reality - as we have seen 1500+ members, a lot of people drove over in the last minute from Tri State Area.
It takes a lot to build a team. So get as many people as possible involved.
Come on my dear Michigan folks - Ford and Chrysler must give us atleast 10,000 members. Please wake up from your slumber. People sitting on the fence must jump right now. yes, this is the time - just join us. Help IV to help yourselves
Never say that. We need everyone. This discourages those who are on the fence.
I am saying this by experience - being a non profit and no obligation group - many people who want to do something - are just sitting on the fence finding it tough to decide whether to make the jump or not - a very good example is the rally. Most people just wanted to see how the response is and then jump in.
Every member in IV is a very crucial member - everyone has skills that he/she can contribute so just get as many people as possible - keep them intact - this is very essential. If people start backing out - others will lose morale. And slowly people will stop showing interest and when something drastic happens everyone will start blaming IV for not doing its job and will ask IV for doing fast actions.
We worked extremely hard to build the Tri State team so did California folks and other folks are catching up - it involves a lot of hard work and you will be constantly attacked by people for no fault of yours, but it is very essential that you keep up the tempo and morale - patience and perseverence is the key here for building the team. Aggression and passion must be combined to lead something.
At Tri State we recongize everyone. Everyone in this area have worked extremely hard with a lot of dedication and commitment - words will not be enough to describe their commitment. A lot of people say - Tri State was a let down for the rally - but in reality - as we have seen 1500+ members, a lot of people drove over in the last minute from Tri State Area.
It takes a lot to build a team. So get as many people as possible involved.
Come on my dear Michigan folks - Ford and Chrysler must give us atleast 10,000 members. Please wake up from your slumber. People sitting on the fence must jump right now. yes, this is the time - just join us. Help IV to help yourselves
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singhsa3
07-13 10:37 PM
Does any one has any Idea or back of the envelope calculation as to how many EB2 visas (for all countries) may be left for the remainder of FY'07?
The reason I am saying Eb2 all and not EB2 India, as most of the 485 applications filled in early July 485 were from India. Hence, given the new interpretation of visa overflow, almost all will be assigned to this category.
The reason I am saying Eb2 all and not EB2 India, as most of the 485 applications filled in early July 485 were from India. Hence, given the new interpretation of visa overflow, almost all will be assigned to this category.
Suva
05-18 10:02 AM
Sent emails to NJ lawmakers. Thanks.
pa_arora
09-27 01:06 PM
Speed of approval is not the problem. The NUMBERS are the problem. We saw that in June when so many ppl got approved.
To me "SKILLED & DIVERSITY" doesn’t make any sense. They should not go hand in hand.
To me "SKILLED & DIVERSITY" doesn’t make any sense. They should not go hand in hand.
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