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  • alterego
    09-04 05:05 PM
    Someone asked earlier, who changed their mind after reading Jaime. I did after one of his earlier posts.
    I was decided on not going, but then as I spent more time on this forum, I realized it is definitely the right thing to do. If not us speaking up then who? Simply answer that. How do lawmakers even know that we exist, that an injustice is happening to us, that we feel frustrated about our situation. They keep getting lopsided anti immigrant venom from some well organized and well funded groups and keep hearing about illegal immigration. Our pain however has resonance with them. We played by the rules, we came and lived legally at the invitation of our AMERICAN employers and the US gov't certified that there is no one to take the jobs we are doing, we paid taxes, we have integrated into society and we are asking, why are we being made to wait this long?
    What's to feel bad or shy about in that?

    I'll tell you something, those who are skeptical simply do not understand how this country works. It is a representative democracy and people pressure and protests and lobbying DO WORK. Otherwise lobbying would not be the biggest growth industry of the day. There is no other way to inspire change, and it has been, can and will be done. I have seen it time and over again.

    The final point I wish to make is, those coming to this rally have pre-selected traits. They are the pre-selected ones who are programmed to be successful in this country. They understand it and are proactive and entrepreneural and willing to spend, take risks, take a leadership, are responsible and will do the right thing. These traits have been and will continue to be rewarded in the long run in this country. I wish we can project that our community has many of these people.
    Those meek, follow the leader, risk averse, miserly, behind the back types, may have their little breadcrumbs but will never have the attributes to achieve anything of note in the USA anyway. They will continue to find lame excuses for their lack of progress.

    Every reader needs to decide for themself which type he/she is. This is after all the greatest country in the world that you are asking for acceptance into.




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  • sc3
    06-19 05:39 PM
    Thanks Toroto. Keep up the good work.




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  • Macaca
    09-16 10:11 AM
    Your vision will become clear
    only when you can
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    Who looks outside, dreams;
    who looks inside, awakes
    Carl Jung




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  • logiclife
    02-12 12:38 AM
    If you have questions, please use the phone number to call us. We cannot send PMs to too many people. Its just quicker to answer the phone.

    850-391-4966.

    We will answer as many questions as we can.

    Please do not turn your anger against each other if you disagree.

    Thanks.



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  • GCard_Dream
    03-20 08:46 PM
    So are you suggesting that everyone in EB3 ROW is unskilled professional?

    And I think you need some reading lessons .... read my post ... the comparison is between categories for eg EB2 for IN/CHina vs EB3 for ROW




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  • walking_dude
    10-10 02:15 PM
    I understand your friends marriage is important and you can't miss it at any cost.

    I'm hoping that since you anyways plan to be in Troy that day, you can try to attend for 15 minutes-30 minutes and then leave for your friends ceremony. I don't think the meeting will be a whole day afair. It might last half an hour to an hour max. Please consider the possibility of partial attendance, if possible, while attending your friends marriage - as every extra member attending the meet is a moralebooster to the rest of us.

    It would be great if we can have you there, even if it's just for a few minutes. (You can call one of us later for more details)


    I am very sorry but I will not be able to make it on the 20th. I was informed by my Indian friend that he will get married on the same day at Troy too. Talking about coincidence. Anyway, I wish the Michigan Chapter meeting will be successful.



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  • madhavig
    08-03 03:12 PM
    We had a very bad experience with the the Fragomen, Philadelphia Office. We sent our signed forms on 2nd July and they delayed a month and filed only yesterday 2nd August.
    They take things for granted unless you escalate to your HR and make sure that they are under pressure to act quick.




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  • nrupendra
    09-20 08:40 PM
    However its better to conduct a rally in a week-end. Sometimes congress works in a week-end, if we conduct the rally in a week-end then many from NOVA will be able attend. That gives the nos. we are looking for. The other thing is the drive each and every one of the member need to do create awareness among like us. Some are not aware though on the same boat others are afraid due to lack of awareness.

    Even my manager who is a white American told me he will join us for the rally if one conducted to show his solidarity.

    Thanks



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  • gcbeku
    06-11 02:46 PM
    This is not just "frostrated" but silly socialist thinking too. What has "joining hands" or "new comers with fake experiences" got to do with porting.

    If you can port, then just DO IT and spare yourself the pain.... why wait for "en masse transfer to EB2 by porting" or talk about "ethical reasons" and then lament after the fact ???

    :confused:



    I hate to say this and I hope I am wrong. All of us EB3 folks need to start speaking up or else our fate is sealed. I do not see any hopes of CIR passing. There is always going to be some political backlash due to the AMNESTY factor.
    From what I have seen, most employers are now filing only in EB2 category. They know that filing in EB3 will see their applicants backlogged so severly that there is no hope in seeing their applications approved. So, even those with less than 5 years of experience create resumes that show 5 years to qualify for EB2. Imagine the flood of applicants in EB2 that will pour in when the dates move forward beyond July 2007. There will be a new backlog of EB2 numbers that we have to wait behind. When are we going to get our turn?
    With nearly 10 years of experience and a master's degree, I am still languishing behind all these new comers who come here with fake experiences to qualify for EB2.
    We EB3 folks need to speak up, and have the spill over given to the oldest filed applications IRRESPECTIVE of category. The spillover rules from what I know were defined at a later stage and not as per the original law. If we cannot get CIR passed nor a piecemeal regulation, at least let us get the spillover changed.
    Or, let us en masse transfer to EB2 by porting, thereby making us all eligible for GC ahead of those that are coming in through the back door. I see them as no different from the undocumented immigrants. Breaking the ethical law at the expense of those of us who followed the law. Our positions did not require a Master's degree and I dont see why a programming position today still requires such. I also dont see why our experience today should not count towards qualifying for EB2.
    I dont care what or how many reds the EB2 folks give, but the fact of the matter is that we EB3 must join hands.




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  • senthil1
    05-31 05:24 PM
    It is better not to consider instead of coming and failing so that another chance to pass with modification

    That's why there is a saying that you should never watch sausages and laws being made.

    The Cantwell amendment and Lieberman amendment will fail to pass the vote. It doesnt matter whether its ordered to lie on table or whether its ordered to take a nap on the table or have some lemonade on the table. And it doesnt matter what any of those "Motion to... " means.

    Both of those amendments, if debated, will fail. It will take 10 seconds for Bernie Sanders, Ted Kennedy and Dick Durbin to scream on top of their lungs and kill it. And the reason is very simple. There is a massive H1B exemption ON TOP OF 180,000 QUOTA. People who have been so successful this year so far in restricting H1 and employment based GCs are not going to miss that nice little H1 exemption at the bottom of both these amendments. So stop scratching your heads over what the "lying on table" means, because whatever is lying on table is unpassable if it somehow awakes from the table and starts dancing in the well of the senate floor.



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  • franklin
    09-27 01:02 AM
    I think it is important to maintain diversity in the overall immigration. However the immigration law has never resulted in achieving diversity. In the period 1900-1910, immigrants came from Italy (22%), Austria (20%) and Russia (18%). In the 1950-1960 period Germany provided 20% of immigrants. In the 1991-2000 period Mexico provided almost 22% of immigrants. In the FY 2005, Mexico provided around 161,000 immigrants (around 17%) of immigrants. It is easy to fix a quota for those immigration categories where visa numbers are limited such as for employment. However spouses and minor children of naturalized citizens have no waiting period. So it will be very hard to control the immigration percentages based on country of origin unless there is a quota for US citizen spouses, and children of US citizens wantin to immigrate!

    The problem here is that we don't have a country quota for foreign students and H1Bs. Thus when these people try to become permanent residents then the quota's are applied and that is the core problem. My take is that country quota should not be applied for employment based immigration. Employers should not be forced in to an affirmative action plan but rather hire the right person for the job.

    Source for my above data, if you like to do some weekend reading:

    http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/92948.pdf
    Sorry - I can't currently access the report you quote your oringinal figures from at the beginning of your quote. Are these numbers of total immigration, or immigration in the highly skilled category?




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  • howzatt
    12-10 04:32 PM
    WOW. What a stupid thread? The OPs anger and frustration might be justified. However, his tone and language used is a bad choice. This is obviously not the first time.

    I have said this before; Calling people names or using stupid analogies is not the way to encourage people to volunteer or contribute.

    Your method of constantly bashing people and calling people names is unfortunately reflective of the organisation and core team as a whole. Do you even think before you hit the "submit" button? Imagine if a CEO starts making stupid remarks about his employees. Would it have a positive effect or negative effect? How many of the senior members really approve this approach? This approach will only alienate people further.

    Amma came out and apologised for her mistake. Will logiclife do the same? I guess he does not have to. I am not sure if he has issued any apologies in the past. If he hasn't, this might be a good time to do it.

    OLDMONK makes good points. I expect other senior members to respond by asking me what or how I contributed so far. Just to avoid more posts, I started off contributing but could not motivate myself after having seen numerous stupid posts from different people. Ofcourse, some people will use this behaviour as an excuse to not do anything.

    Logiclife's post does nothing good. It only increases the separation between the so called volunteers and bench warmers. People deserve to be treated with respect and that is something he needs to realize.



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  • paskal
    09-22 10:33 AM
    When you say these are the " ONLY REASONS", you should think twice. If your wife delivered baby on that day or if you had back surgery a week ago probably you would not be been in DC for the rally. So please dont generalize anything.I am not sure if the most efficient way to motivate people is to write bunch of threads with the words like the four you used many times.


    Good Luck

    you are right. many people had very genuine reasons. personally i was glad to represent them in DC. even some very committed volunteers could not make it. i do not think chandu means to generalize. he is venting his own frustrations at the very substantial number of members who simply choose not to participate...in anything...let alone a rally...




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  • days_go_by
    03-08 05:09 PM
    based on country of origin, why even aus? is it because their spouses are more productive than our spouses? or is it because most aus are white,



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  • suriajay12
    04-10 11:17 AM
    Dear Dr. Teli (I am sure you are a Dr. because you dont let facts or reality come in the way of your diagnosis of a situation, argument or person, only a PhD can do that)

    Thank you for doing the homework on my 1 year of postings..Not even my wife pays that much attention to me, makes me feel really valuable :)

    I could have told you that. I have never contributed any money to IV and probably never will. Because i dont think they are doing anything. I have, however, answered a few people's questions about AP or H4 visa (something with which i had to spend a lot of time researching). That is the extent of my "contribution". I just answered a few earnest questions to the best of my ability.

    You can attack me all you want. For example, probably I am not EB2..Hmm, I thought EB2 was an employment category and not a species classification but I may be wrong...

    Anyway, what happens is that whenever a new visa bulletin rolls out, there are all these posts which basically say
    1. Contribute
    2. We must do something
    3. What is IV core doing
    4. Where is VDLRAO
    5. When will the injustice end
    etc etc etc

    I have been seeing this for the last 3 years. First things first, If you want to take action, spend 41 cents every day and send a letter to your congressman or senator everyday for 1 year....For $149 per year (365 * 0.41 not counting leap years and counting on the fact that you will mail a letter even on holidays :))
    At the end of the year, at least you have something to show for what you did. With IV, you can convince people that Patton Boggs is doing all they can for you, Trust them.

    I am not blaming the Core at all, they are doing whateven they can given the limited resources, time and influence they have. But, what I am blaming, is the the "holier than thou" attitude which is adopted when distinguishing between those that are the exalted DONORS and those that aren't :)

    Chaanakya,

    You said "Thank you for doing the homework on my 1 year of postings..Not even my wife pays that much attention to me, makes me feel really valuable :)".
    He is not that partial that he leaves others. If you look at my posts, I noticed exactly the same. He appears to know everything about me :) . And I am very sure others here who raise valid points have noticed the same.
    Please show some pity of this guy.He probably has no job, thinks supporting blindly gets him some points from core or someone.. He does manage a good # of greens though. Its possible he has 15 to 20 accounts in this forum and logs in with each account, gives greens to rest of them. Please excuse him. I usually dont reply to these folks.




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  • somegchuh
    07-18 04:43 PM
    Guys,

    I have pretty much the same story and am in pretty much the same situation due to PBEC and now retrogression.
    I don't think returning back as a knee jerk reaction is a good idea. If you have already been here 8-9 years obviously you have been stuck in a programming job for the last 10+ years. You can't take programming experience back to home country and ask for management position. You will get no programming position because you are over qualified and no management position because you don't have the experience.

    However horrible it sounds, its best to stick it out. I am personally ready to stick it out for at least 1.5 years. After that I will be forced to make a decision otherwise I will lose my canadian PR also.

    Let's talk about three things:
    1. Make efforts to get GC.
    2. Plan for your future: Enhance your education, apply for PR in another developed country.
    3. Make your present better: Enjoy everyday, don't worry about GC.

    I was thinking about PMI, CISA and MBA right from the time I landed in US in 1999. Then I realized that I need to get an GC to make use of those. Then I started to look for a stable company where I can start my GC process. It took three years toll till then. I joined a good ameican company as a perm employee. They did not file my GC as they promised and I had to quit to join another company for the heck of my GC and for my (my wife with CPA / CA is on H4 for 5th year now) dream career. I had to go many step back in technology with the new company but I sucessfully managed to file my GC.

    Then what? When I finished studying my PMI, all the retrogression story started. Then I had to ask questions my self.

    1. With PMI certification in 2004, if I am doing a Sr. Software engineer, will it not raise questions down the line in my career interviews. May be yes or no, but I do not have answers.
    2. With PMI Cert in 2004, if I can get my GC in 2005, I am pretty sure I could manage any questions throws at me, but not in 2008 or 2010. So I dropped the idea on PMI / CISA/ GMAT until I have 50% certanity of when I will be getting my GC in hand.
    3. The worst will be starting an MBA with good univeristy and competing it in next two years with zero hope of getting GC then. What would you do if you are not even closer to file your 485 when you have MBA degree in hand. You will have career in your home country with this MBA for sure, but who will pay your debts here. It is like shooting yourself on your foot with golden gun. Atleast you will be satsifed it is golden gun, but the end result is hurting yourselves.

    4. So what is the option? Never give up. There are always difficult times for everyone. What we are facing is nothing. There are people who are graduating at the age of 70 in US. I have seen a lady at the age of 70 graduating with MAB from Harvard. I thought she did it for fun, but in an interview she said she wants to pursue her career in marketing field. This is an eye opener for me. So prepare yourself with TOEFL and GMAT. These scores are valid for 5 years. Join from volunteer organizations and develop your leadership skills. Reco letters from these orgs will have great impact when you apply for MBA infuture. Most of all it is right way to live a peaceful life atleast if you do not go the MBA route, you will develop the skills needed for your life.



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  • logiclife
    12-11 02:32 PM
    I have said what I have felt. I am not going to be politically correct, never have been. This is not a forum for pracitising genteel speeches, pampering and politically correct messages.

    If you RSVP that "I will come" and the host prepares entire day for meeting, makes her daughter skip the extra carricular activities, ends up using better part of weekend for an event she is thinking will be attended by you, but you dont show up even and dont even bother to call they you are cancelling, then you ought to be ashamed of yourself. If you do something like that in your workplace, then you will get fired. If you signup for a volunteer training/conference on behalf of your company, get company to book your travel, make them spend time/money and then on day of travel, you dont even show up at the airport and attend conference/training that you volunteered to attend, then you will get fired. You wont get fired from Immigration Voice and there are no personal consequence to your bad, lousy manners therefore its afforable to do so, and so you can do it.

    If you think EAD is the end of the road and you are free now with AC21 options BUT on the contrary you feel more and more need to visit forums here, on Khanna portal, on Murthy's forums/chats then probably you are wrong, you are not free. You are still bound by strings that restrain your mobility and freedom.

    LURKERS : And finally, if the only reason (and this is the most common reason) for not volunteering or participating in activities or contributions is that you are afraid of USCIS or some agency retaliating against your pending 485, and the problem is cowardice. The most common reason why we have 3 times more "visitors" then logged in members is that "visitors" are afraid of the government in the most democratic and free country in the world. I need you to login so that I can get email and information about you so that I can seek your help. And I dont need your help for my own personal gain. I am not going to sell you used cars to send you spams and advertisements about something I am selling. I am one of you. Struggling and fighting against an unfair system. I need your email - not to sell you fortune cookies - but to ask for funds, ask you to attend local events, ask you to meet lawmakers. None of these things bring a single penny to my bank account. None of these things make my PD current. This is for you, if you think you are up for it. But if you are a coward then no one can help you. And if you are offended by being called a "coward" by me, then you are too coward to even recognize that you are a coward.




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  • raj7480
    06-14 11:51 AM
    With the good news of all numbers current, both I and my wife's dates are current and eligible for filing I485.

    1. In my application, can I include my wife as spouse for adjustment of status? And In my wife's application, can I include myself as spouse?

    I am trying to do this to make sure if anything goes wrong in any one of our application, I can depend on the other one.

    2. If I get an EAD based on my wife's application, can we both switch jobs after 180 days and take advantage of AC21? I read in some forums that I can, but the primary application (my wife) has to work for the same company until we get I485 approved.

    Thanks for your answers in advance




    mheggade
    07-14 06:05 PM
    How do you say Level III and Level IV is EB2, Mine is EB2 but it is Level II

    Just based on the definition given by DOL I decided Level III and Level IV to be EB2. Besides I am EB2 and my wage level is Level IV. I agree it is hard to conclude the cat based on wage level, I saw there were some Senior welders in Level III as well as Vice presidents of the companies. Quite a contradiction isn't it!!




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